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McCarthy will not run for speaker again after being removed

Rep. Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., speaks to reporters hours after he was ousted as speaker of the House on Tuesday.
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Rep. Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., speaks to reporters hours after he was ousted as speaker of the House on Tuesday.

Updated October 3, 2023 at 7:50 PM ET

The House has voted to remove Kevin McCarthy as speaker, marking the first time in history that a House speaker has been removed in this way.

The final vote was 216-210 in favor of a motion to "vacate the chair." Eight Republicans, led by Florida Rep. Matt Gaetz, joined all Democrats present in voting against McCarthy.

McCarthy told reporters in the Capitol that he will not run again for speaker.

"I leave the speakership with a sense of pride, accomplishment and yes, optimism," he said. "I will not run for speaker again. I will have the conference pick someone else."

McCarthy said he does not regret the disagreements with members of his own party that led to his demise.

"I do not regret negotiating," McCarthy said. "Our government is designed to find compromise."

Congress has now entered uncharted territory: The House will be forced to hold votes on a new speaker, though McCarthy's defectors have not named any alternative nominee. It's not clear that any other Republican could win enough votes to secure the gavel.

The vote marks the end of a fraught speakership for McCarthy. It took him 15 rounds of voting to secure the position in January. And in recent weeks, hardliners within his party blocked his efforts to pass a temporary spending bill to avoid a government shutdown.

Rep. Patrick McHenry, the chair of the Financial Services Committee, has been named speaker pro tempore, or interim speaker, until a new leader is elected.

Rep. Patrick McHenry, R-N.C., talks to reporters hours before Rep. Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., was ousted as speaker on Tuesday. McHenry was named speaker pro tempore and will temporarily lead the House.
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Rep. Patrick McHenry, R-N.C., talks to reporters hours before Rep. Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., was ousted as speaker on Tuesday. McHenry was named speaker pro tempore and will temporarily lead the House.

Republicans plan for a new speaker

Majority Whip Tom Emmer indicated he would not run for speaker, when asked if he would consider it Tuesday evening. "[House Majority Leader] Steve Scalise has been a good friend for a long time and he would be a great speaker," he said.

Scalise, R-La., has been undergoing treatment for multiple myeloma, a form of blood cancer. He recently said his treatments so far have been successful. Scalise told reporters in the Capitol that he does not have any announcement to make at this time.

Members told reporters that they expect to hold a candidate forum next Tuesday ahead of votes on a speaker, possibly as early as Wednesday.

Republicans split into factions

Gaetz, who never supported McCarthy's candidacy in January, has cited McCarthy's decision to pass a short-term spending bill with Democratic support as evidence he has not "fulfilled his promises" to conservatives.

GOP Rep. Matt Gaetz of Florida leaves the Capitol after Speaker of the House Kevin McCarthy was ousted on Tuesday.
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GOP Rep. Matt Gaetz of Florida leaves the Capitol after Speaker of the House Kevin McCarthy was ousted on Tuesday.

After the vote Tuesday, Gaetz told reporters that this move "represents the ripping off of the band aid, and that's what we need to do to get back on track."

McCarthy was defiant but resigned to the vote following a lengthy meeting of House Republicans earlier in the day.

"If you throw a speaker out that has 99 percent of their conference, that kept government open and paid the troops, I think we're in a really bad place," McCarthy told reporters in the Capitol Tuesday morning.

Democrats refuse to save McCarthy

Ahead of the vote, there was speculation that Democrats might step in to save McCarthy's speakership by voting "present" rather than in favor of the motion to vacate. But McCarthy said he was not willing to offer any concessions to Democrats to help him stay in power.

House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, D-N.Y., said it would be up to Republicans to "break with extremists."

"We are ready, willing and able to work together with our Republican colleagues but it is on them to join us to move the Congress and the country forward," Jeffries told reporters in the Capitol.

House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, D-N.Y., says it is up to Republicans to find a way out of their political differences.
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House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, D-N.Y., says it is up to Republicans to find a way out of their political differences.

His comments followed a lengthy "open mic" meeting of House Democrats in the basement of the Capitol complex Tuesday. One by one lawmakers got up and had one minute to advise on what they thought the caucus should do, and one by one Democrats railed on Speaker McCarthy's record and his unwillingness to reach across the aisle.

"I think Kevin McCarthy is among the most unprincipled, untrustworthy people I ever have encountered in the entirety of my life, and I think he does damage to this institution and our democracy," Virginia Rep. Abigail Spanberger, a moderate Democrat, told reporters.

Multiple Democrats told NPR that neither the speaker nor his allies had approached Democratic leaders with any proposal to support him.

Rep. Richard Neal, D-Mass., said McCarthy's decision to change the rules on who can propose a resolution to remove the speaker, allowing just one member to do it — a concession made for McCarthy to get the speakership in the first place — "essentially puts the fringe in charge of the House of Representatives in terms of rulemaking."

Neal said he had a "Machiavellian position" about that decision in January: "Once you seal the deal, you have to take the consequences."

After the vote, White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said President Biden was eager to work with both parties in Congress, and said he hoped the House would elect a speaker soon. "Because the urgent challenges facing our nation will not wait, he hopes the House will quickly elect a speaker," she said in a statement.

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Deirdre Walsh is the congress editor for NPR's Washington Desk.
Kelsey Snell is a Congressional correspondent for NPR. She has covered Congress since 2010 for outlets including The Washington Post, Politico and National Journal. She has covered elections and Congress with a reporting specialty in budget, tax and economic policy. She has a graduate degree in journalism from the Medill School of Journalism at Northwestern University in Evanston, Ill. and an undergraduate degree in political science from DePaul University in Chicago.
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